Episode 1: Why Rhythms?

 


The world runs on rhythms. You need only look or listen outside your window to nature, to put a hand to your chest and feel your heart beating, or to check the timetable for your daily commute to know this is true. But the best rhythms of life are those that hold us and bring us delight. Listen in as Hannah and Kris unpack what they mean by 'rhythms' and why they're set on shaping their days with these purposeful patterns.


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EP0001 - Why Rhythms

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Hannah
Welcome to the Rhythms Podcast. My name's Hannah.

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Kris
And my name's Kris. This is a podcast about exploring the rhythms, patterns and habits that bring joy and add richness to our everyday lives.

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Hannah
From daily habits to embracing the changing seasons. It's not about mindless routines, but patterns with purpose. It's about making something special out of something ordinary.

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Kris
If you're someone who wants to move beyond just being more efficient or productive and instead find ways to infuse your days with small, familiar moments that matter, then you've found two new friends with the same goal every episode.

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Hannah
Listen and as we share a reflection on the role of rhythms in our lives. Join the conversation as we unpack this idea further and then spend a moment with us. Considering how that rhythm could shape or add richness to our lives today.

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Kris
This is episode one. Why Rhythms.

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Hannah
Since I was a young child, I remember yearning for seeking out and crafting rhythms of life. Yes, I was that nine year old girl writing her own morning routine on a little whiteboard at the bottom of the staircase. Happily skipping along to check off tasks. I got ready for school, made beard tick, brush teeth tick, shoes on, tick.

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Hannah
I remember the excitement of planning for each Christmas Eve when my sisters and I would roll out our paper thin mattresses in sleeping bags beside the twinkling tree and lay out a plate of cookies with Santa. My sisters and I would tell anyone who'd listen that we weren't allowed to open even our Christmas stockings in the morning until our parents were present.

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Hannah
I remember the thrill of counting down the days until it hit off on our annual summer camping trip. I stopped packing at least a week before we'd leave. Adding to and taking things off my packing list as I went. I couldn't wait to be waking each morning in my little pup tent to the sound of beds and maybe the crying baby in the next tent over to the daily pattern of going to the camp office to check what activities were being offered that day and visiting the canteen to pick out five scent lollies or maybe even an ice cream.

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Hannah
Every day was slow and sane, full of the familiar, and a friend's wonderful. I remember every Sunday morning having to arrive at church early with my pastor parents. Each week I looked forward to settling into the same cozy armchair and an unused office to watch. What now and then the start of the tribe before friends arrived and the service began.

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Hannah
Traditions, patterns, rituals and rhythms. These are the things so many of my childhood memories are made of and truly so much of the nostalgia is about the joy of the rhythm, the pattern, the familiarity. Of course, today, as an adult, my life continues to be full of rhythms, both the purposeful and the unintentional and still the rituals, the rhythms I've intentionally created that are like a warm embrace.

00:03:34:08 - 00:04:00:07
Hannah
Rhythms as opposed to routines. Take the mundane and turn it into magic. They create a moment in each day to look forward to moments to rest and a rhythm will hold you. It will carry you through a day, an environment, a season.

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Hannah
It's true that our world as a world of rhythms look to nature now. I'm not a science scout, but I notice the same birdsong in different seasons outside my window in the morning. The unique and rhythm rhythmic cause, like a morning alarm telling me it's time to quit snooze. I watches the moon get smaller and smaller until it's just a sliver each month and then back to that full round glow that rules the night.

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Hannah
Haven't we all spent an afternoon chasing and being chased by waves at the beach? The tide coming in, moving out over and over. Even now, place a hand on your chest, reach for a pulse point. Feel your heart beating, blood pulsing through your body. Listen to your breath and out. Repeat rhythms. Make the world your world go round.

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Hannah
As an adult, I've become acutely aware of the significance of rhythms and routines and the hand I can have in creating and inviting them into my life. There's nothing like being responsible for 20 children to wake you up to the importance of familiar routines. Any early childhood teacher like myself who tell you of the significance they provide security, efficiency, belonging.

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Hannah
They empower and reassure. They are the steady babe with steps that everyone knows to dance along to throughout the learning environment and throughout the day. Rhythms and rituals and more than efficient routines. There is a richness, a pace and warmth that comes from being in the rhythm. Rhythms give shape and harmony, for instance. These days I still aim for a morning routine that sometimes goes out the window if I've gone to bed too late watching Survivor.

00:06:20:07 - 00:06:57:10
Hannah
But more and more, I'm trying to make this a purposeful pattern. I wake to the soft glow of a lamp outside my bedroom door after taking the puppy out. More on how much a new year will force you to redefine all your familiar rhythms in a future episode. It's time to add some music into the mix. Depending on the time of year, this might be a playlist full of banjos, all my favorite coffeehouse jazz, whatever it is at soft and it serves, it's the start of the hug I'm hoping for from the familiar flow.

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Hannah
Next up, coffee and my favorite treat for breakfast. Thick white puff, thickly golden toast, Marmite sparingly sprayed on with that one perfect butter knife. I'm always digging through the cutlery drawer for this is more than roll out of bed, dress eight brush teeth. Thank God this is not a mundane routine. It's a purposeful pattern that carries me through the bleary eyed morning so I can arrive at my destination Work church Saturday morning.

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Hannah
Chores. Ready? Come. Content. Similarly with seasonal rhythms. For example, when autumn is about to arrive, or maybe even a little before that, when I'm getting tired of the sweltering summer heat. My music preferences change to autumnal themed playlists, or maybe albums that feel like autumn to me. Johnny swims songs with strangers, anyone. My daily early evening walk becomes even more important because I can't bear to miss out on the crisp air and golden light.

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Hannah
Soup and bread nights are added into the weekly dinner rotation. The moment right after dinner is spent feeding our alpacas, fellas, while we chat about the day, we start picking up pinecones on Saturday mornings. Stockpiling them for the winter. This isn't a to do list of tasks for March through May. These habits are helping us come into harmony with the season we entering.

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Hannah
In fact, they help us to embrace look forward to relish the season. Not every season of the year or of life. Neither a time of day or environment is to be relished. We're sure to talk more about that in the future, because if nothing else, we want this podcast to be based on real life. But in those instances, a rhythm is just as important.

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Hannah
Instead, it is. They're designed to carry you, to steady you, to help you find small moments of familiar loveliness, to keep our beautiful lives moving, even when they don't feel beautiful. The world is full of rhythms. Your life is full of rhythms, and with a little thought and intention, they can be there because you chose them. So what do you think?

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Hannah
Ready to take the mundane and turn it into magic.

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Kris
Welcome. Welcome to the Rhythms podcast. This is Chris and Hannah. We're so glad that you're with us and it's exciting. It's exciting to be able to do this with my friend Hannah. And we have been mulling this idea around for a long time now. We've worked on a podcast together before, haven't we?

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Hannah
Yes, you may. If you have young children, you might have heard us because it was for kids of families and celebrating Christmas. So this is a little bit different.

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Kris
As just a little bit. But ironically, the topic of rhythms has meant that we've had to create a bunch of new rhythms to make this happen.

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Hannah
Yes. Hello, Asana.

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Kris
Hello.

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Hannah
Oh, maybe there could be a future sponsor, Chris.

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Kris
Yeah, I think. Let know that then, Asana, if you're listening. Thank you. It's been super helpful. Hey, so this podcast is all about crafting rhythms that are meaningful and that add purpose to things that are mundane and a lot of the nucleus of this show has come out of Hannah's practices with rhythms. I'm kind of the opposite of her, actually, which we thought would be a really interesting counterpoint to each other.

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Hannah
Yes, because I'm ready to argue with you a little bit, Chris, that you haven't been doing rhythms, right?

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Kris
Okay. Well, have I been doing them wrong?

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Hannah
I think that maybe you've been fighting against routines and instead your life could do with some rhythms to bring some magic into your life.

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Kris
We kind of want to go on the journey together a bit because we're we're committed to learning and we're committed to making sense of our world. And we're kind of getting to that stage and life stage where we start to ask questions about our existence. But we've always done that, haven't we, Hannah?

00:11:37:13 - 00:12:04:24
Hannah
Yes, we both are the thinkers. I think so, yeah. It's definitely us. But yeah, you're right. I've realized I and I talked about this in my reflection. I want to be much more intentional about what's making up my life, because it's all of the little moments every day that are making my life right. And so if I can just bring a little bit of magic or I quite like those words familiar loveliness and to every day that makes a big difference.

00:12:04:24 - 00:12:28:11
Hannah
That makes a big difference than just those ordinary days. And I truly believe that that makes a big difference and the really hard days as well. There's a rhythm that steadies you and carries you like a good piece of music. Again, I briefly mentioned this, that my reflection that's come a lot from my early childhood background. So when you have the responsibility for a lot of children, routines are really, really important.

00:12:28:17 - 00:12:50:06
Hannah
But when you're together all day, every day and you're with preschoolers, there has to be wonder and magic. And every day like that's the point of childhood, right? And so I learned that there has to be chosen rhythms and your day to take away the mundane ness and bring that joy and magic and lovely and into everyday, even an ordinary moments.

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Hannah
So that's sort of where my awareness first began was in that space.

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Kris
Yes. And I think when I'm the opposite. So I've been mired in routines and I have worked in the same sphere, basically my working life, which is in the non-for-profit sphere, and it's a lot of wear and tear. And I've worked together and yes, every day has started to become the same. And for me that's really difficult because it feels like especially this week, it's just sort of melted away into nothing.

00:13:23:07 - 00:13:33:14
Kris
And I've been trying to be more intentional about making each of the days and this week matter somehow. And I think maybe Hannah finds it easier than me.

00:13:33:14 - 00:13:48:15
Hannah
But yeah, so. Okay, so tell us about like, how have you ended up there in this podcast, Chris? Like what has convinced you that your life could do with some rhythm? Why? Why? A Rhythms The answer that is, you know, possibly to that boredom.

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Kris
So I'm watching the recording thing scroll by on my computer, the recording timeline that's reminding me of like a heartbeat, like an EKG. And I feel like this podcast is kind of like my attempt at the defibrillator with pedals, you know, like everything's become quite boring. And I've just sort of been in a lull and I just kind of want to grab those pedals and like, you know, and then do the clear and, you know, just jolt myself into something unique and interesting.

00:14:18:09 - 00:14:34:08
Kris
And sometimes maybe I'll rhythms need breaking before that can be rethought and remade. And so that's something that I'm really interested in learning about in this podcast. So I'm ready to do the journey if you are Hannah.

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Hannah
Definitely.

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Kris
And so we've used this phrase rhythms a lot already, and I can imagine that we're going to be saying that word a lot. But what does that actually mean? It's an abstract concept now, but to you, Hannah, what is a rhythm? What what do you mean by a rhythm?

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Hannah
I think what's helpful as to look at the contrast between a routine and a rhythm. So a routine is like a series of actions or tasks that helps you complete a bigger task, right? So maybe your morning routine is to help you get ready for work, get you out the door, get you to work. A ritual or a rhythm has a richness to it.

00:15:16:14 - 00:15:45:01
Hannah
It brings joy. So it's like a rhythm and that it's steady and it's regular. So that's similar to a routine in some ways, but it's more like a piece of music or a piece of art, and that the flow brings shape and harmony that ultimately is going to bring joy or a sense of calm or pace, whereas a routine ultimately is just about getting the task completed.

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Hannah
I kind of hold on this idea a little bit and my reflection about my mornings. So, you know, I could just be that idea of like, wake up, get dressed a fresh day, go, And I'm not my best self when I get to work. And I've just had this mundane, mindless routine. So instead I've had to think about, okay, what is going to help me be the best?

00:16:08:01 - 00:16:28:12
Hannah
Hannah When I get to work? And also just so that I also enjoy that hour and a half in the morning because I want to enjoy the moments that make up my days. I love to wake up when it's dark and I have I'm a little bit going into Smart Home World, so I have my lamps already have turned on at 530.

00:16:28:12 - 00:16:45:02
Hannah
I'm an early bird, so I wake up to the that lovely soft glow of light and the first thing I do actually is I turn on my frame TV, so I have some nice artwork and I choose the music and I ask to go to play that. I really sound like very into the smart ones.

00:16:45:03 - 00:16:47:22
Kris
Yeah, yeah. But it sounds like it's a new thing.

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Hannah
Discover It's very new and it's very helpful with these rhythms. Breakfast for me is like a really important part of the rhythm. So every morning I make her caramel latte and I have like a specific order, and then I pull out the things. But I've got my favorite mug. And I often when I'm when I'm grinding the coffee beans, I smell like I lift up the veins to my nose and I smell them because I love the smell of the coffee.

00:17:14:10 - 00:17:16:20
Hannah
And when I forget to do that on some days I miss it.

00:17:16:22 - 00:17:26:11
Kris
And as that, like an intentional choice. So like, you actually are like, I'm going to smell these beans and I'm going to say that these beans and the smell of this coffee.

00:17:26:12 - 00:17:52:17
Hannah
Yeah, it's that like slowing down, being present and enjoying the little moments. So I'm enjoying the process of making the coffee just like I'm going to enjoy the product at the end. Yeah. And then there's this. Like, I think we might actually be two nights of, like, this old, old cutlery set when I was a child left. But it's still very difficult to find one of them each morning because it's like a zillion.

00:17:52:17 - 00:18:11:02
Hannah
That's one thing. I have a mission. Yes, I live in community with like my extended family. So there's a lot of knives and the cutlery drawer because there's a lot of us with dinner together. But I need to find that one because it is perfect for my Oliver and Marmite toast. It just puts on the perfect amount of Marmite.

00:18:11:02 - 00:18:13:14
Hannah
And if you're a mama eater, you know.

00:18:13:17 - 00:18:15:24
Kris
Yeah, I'm taking Marmite, by the way.

00:18:16:01 - 00:18:19:08
Hannah
Okay. The right again. Sponsor. Sponsor.

00:18:19:08 - 00:18:30:01
Kris
Marmite. Yeah, but Vegemite listeners will have immediately turned off and then we might have people on the other side of the world who don't even know what we're talking about.

00:18:30:03 - 00:18:37:20
Hannah
So yeah, hopefully what's coming across is in all of these things, I'm intentionally choosing for the process to be enjoyable.

00:18:37:21 - 00:19:06:06
Kris
Yeah. So I'm immediately contrasting my morning with yours, which is incredibly rich and full of meaning, and mine is just firstly, the fact that you can get out of bed as a miracle. I struggle to get out of bed and my wife and I have just started a routine where we take the dog for a walk in the morning and that has been like total upheaval because that's an extra half an hour that we're getting out of bed early.

00:19:06:06 - 00:19:10:19
Hannah
I'm avoiding that because my puppy is not allowed out of the house into the wild for another week.

00:19:10:20 - 00:19:31:13
Kris
Yeah, yeah. Enjoy it because then you have to get up in the morning. Anyway, I, I just. I don't have the same richness as you. I think I brush my teeth and have a shower and even breakfast. You know, it's, it's not something that I slow down to think about. Breakfast actually is slightly different and I'll talk about that later.

00:19:31:13 - 00:19:42:21
Kris
But but this idea of even just getting ready in the morning being something that's really intention or something that you think about and something that you almost curate that part of your day to set you up really well is quite fascinating.

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Hannah
Yes. So I had found I'd drifted a little bit recently from that. And so I think nine year old Hannah emerged and I now have another little checklist on my wall.

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Kris
I think trekking like a physical checklist.

00:19:56:18 - 00:20:22:08
Hannah
I do, I do. I've tried the apps and things, but I'm still a pen and paper person and that's away. And so I do have that list of things like I did when I was nine. I don't feel the need to check them off on a little whiteboard anymore. The novelty of the whiteboards for an alphabet I found, I just wanted to get really clear about what were those things that were going to help me experience familiar loveliness.

00:20:22:08 - 00:20:31:14
Hannah
And, you know, they're the same things every day that they're so lovely that I genuinely look forward to every day, especially the mermaid test.

00:20:31:16 - 00:20:55:22
Kris
I think some of your philosophy around rhythms are starting to pick out a little bit and breakfast because I've been on an eating plan and so breakfast is something that's generally prescribed today is protein, milk and oats. Tomorrow's a smoothie and I really look forward to having breakfast now because I'm hungry. But that's not a bad thing, you know, it's okay to look forward to that, that meal.

00:20:55:22 - 00:21:21:16
Kris
And I generally will have it at work. But as something that's become like a real high point in the morning and and I think it's just a little peek behind the curtain, a bit of what you're experiencing or attempting to experience if your morning, which is here's a ritual that's really common, like everyone's got their breakfast, here's something that's really simple, that's really ordinary and can be mundane and can be turned into something with meaning.

00:21:21:18 - 00:21:50:11
Kris
So, yeah, this idea of breakfast being something that's a very specific rhythm also lends itself to now thinking, Well, there must be hundreds of these things that happen every day in our lives that we just take for granted. And like morning routines are a great example because there's so many aspects of a morning routine that we can have a critical think about and think, Oh, you know, I've just been cruising past getting on the bus or even the walk to the bus stop, and that's time that I can make special.

00:21:50:13 - 00:22:12:24
Hannah
So obviously we're talking a lot about breakfast, but this podcast is going to be about those really small family everyday moments. But we also want this to be about how can we also slow down in our days and in our lives and look at how rhythms can bring richness and hard times and uncomfortable places, Situations?

00:22:13:00 - 00:22:23:16
Kris
Yeah, and I hear that and it's I think about being really aware. And something that we've been mulling over is the idea of active listening.

00:22:23:16 - 00:22:32:01
Hannah
Yes, it's like that. Doing that in our own life. Like actively listening to your life and yourself. Yeah.

00:22:32:03 - 00:22:51:19
Kris
You listen to what's happening around you a lot. You listen to what other people say about you and to you, but it's very seldom that we turn the ear inwards and listen to ourselves and maybe what our bodies are trying to say to us physically or.

00:22:51:19 - 00:22:52:16
Hannah
Yes.

00:22:52:16 - 00:22:53:11
Kris
Mental health.

00:22:53:12 - 00:23:12:00
Hannah
Totally. Well, I was going to say, I think the workplace would be a wonderful place to establish some life forgiving rhythms because I know sometimes I would like dread going into meetings or you might not be in a workplace with meetings, but there can be times when we're dreading going into something. And it could be because of boredom.

00:23:12:00 - 00:23:32:10
Hannah
But sometimes that's because of like fear or stress. And so that's like a perfect opportunity to think, okay, well, what do I need? You know, this happens on the regular. Yeah, I'm not cutting this out of my life. Yeah. So what can I do? What can I put around this? What's a rhythm that is going to bring joy into this and it could be.

00:23:32:10 - 00:23:54:15
Hannah
There needs to be rhythm. It's just looking after yourself a little bit. Or it could be that it's just bringing some joy into it. So, for instance, if you have any say in how a meeting goes, how can you start it off or have a break in the middle or whatever that takes it from something mundane or intimidating and bring some of that familiar loveliness into or that sounds like a little bit wishy washy or but soft, doesn't it?

00:23:54:18 - 00:24:09:09
Hannah
That will appeal to some personality types. But for others, the idea of like energy and that like wide eyed excite meant and which can come from ordinary things. So how could you bring that into a workplace for yourself or even for other people?

00:24:09:11 - 00:24:36:11
Kris
Yeah, or even from a pragmatic standpoint, a rhythm can be almost like equipment to sort of deal with the day, like having a set parameter around a certain act or a certain thing that you do every day at like gives you a baseline by which to react to and to measure. So like a rhythm for a meeting is that maybe you have to practice patience, which I'm sure we've both had to.

00:24:36:12 - 00:24:44:02
Hannah
And I think some of the rhythm, as you put something in before you in your life, before you go into the meeting or after it.

00:24:44:02 - 00:24:44:11
Kris
Yes.

00:24:44:12 - 00:25:04:13
Hannah
You know, to like, support you to do that, to be that to you. So that. Yeah, so that could be that. You make sure every time you go in to the meeting, you try and like personally connect with someone while you're waiting for the late arrivals because that's going to help you be more. It's going to be interesting rather than you just everyone sitting there on their phones.

00:25:04:17 - 00:25:11:01
Hannah
But also it's going to help you be more patient because you've like made a personal connection with someone. Make that part of the rhythm as well.

00:25:11:03 - 00:25:46:02
Kris
Yeah. And obviously rhythms happen and sort of mundane things like work meetings and brushing your teeth, but also life will throw big changes at us, which require us to look at how we deal with them. And I think we don't want to shy away from real life being a real thing that people face, you know? So some rhythms will be things that are difficult to understand or to process, but that and equipping ourselves with smaller rhythms, we sort of are equipping ourselves to deal with the really big stuff when and if that happens.

00:25:46:02 - 00:26:12:01
Hannah
I think that's exactly right. When we're not in those moments, we can be doing the prep work already so that when we find ourselves in chaos and a regularity of pain or just craziness or whatever your situation is, that there's something familiar and safe. And I think that that's what makes a rhythm more than a routine is like a rhythm is familiar and it gives a sense of safety and steadiness.

00:26:12:03 - 00:26:17:10
Hannah
And that becomes, I think, even more important in the midst of turmoil.

00:26:17:11 - 00:26:42:18
Kris
Yeah, because you talked about familiar loveliness, and I can't think of anything more comforting in a time of pain to have something that's familiar and something that's really solid that you can rely on. And, you know, even if it's something really mundane, having that bite of toast is something that's going to ground you and steady you and something that's really painful or, you know, as testing you.

00:26:42:20 - 00:26:50:19
Kris
And so I've never actually thought about it that way. That's that's interesting. That's something little as a building block to help me deal with something big.

00:26:50:19 - 00:27:23:00
Hannah
Yeah that's right And I so I think that there will be rhythms, hopefully that we already have that can help carry us and hold us through those times. But of course, there'll also be times when we will be creating new rhythms. And again, I think that's why it's so helpful to be in this practice of slowing down, listening to ourselves, noticing what do we need to, you know, hold us and carry us through this and then intentionally find the magic that will do that.

00:27:23:00 - 00:27:31:02
Kris
I'm curious to know where new rhythms come from and whether we have to be on the lookout for them if they happen to us.

00:27:31:03 - 00:28:04:07
Hannah
Yes, I think some definitely happen to us. Yeah. And yeah, we've already talked about my reflection. If you look at and to nature, there's a lot that are happening around us that impact us directly. There are routines and patterns and habits that are placed on us because we're not in control of everything in our lives. And again, I think that's why it's so important that we are intentional about the ones that we can control and create, because there's so much that does just happen to us, whether we find them life giving and lovely, the ones that are out of our control.

00:28:04:11 - 00:28:23:00
Hannah
That would depend on what just sits aspirationally. I'm trying to think like there's this lovely rhythm in my work place where when I wake up, when we know we're going into a really long meeting where we're going to have to be thinking creatively about quite strategically, one of my bosses will always bring coffees and he knows our coffee.

00:28:23:05 - 00:28:23:13
Kris
Or whatever.

00:28:23:16 - 00:28:28:24
Hannah
It is. And yeah, so that's like a lovely rhythm that I'm not in control of, but I really enjoy some coffee.

00:28:28:24 - 00:28:39:24
Kris
This I say I never thought of that as familiar loveliness, but even the idea of your boss knowing and having paid attention and identified Hannah gets you a flat. What?

00:28:39:24 - 00:28:44:15
Hannah
I'm a flat white or a and the coffee's not so good. I hide it with caramel latta.

00:28:44:16 - 00:28:58:08
Kris
Oh, yeah. Even your boss, knowing that as that idea of familiar loveliness, that that's something that has will add us like sprinkles on top of your meeting, like powdered sugar, you know, on something that could have been really mundane and boring.

00:28:58:08 - 00:29:10:21
Hannah
Exactly. Because it's saying, I know you and it's also saying, I know this is this could be hard. Yeah. So I'm doing something now to look after us. Yeah. So going through this.

00:29:10:23 - 00:29:28:07
Kris
Like you see it as something that we can prepare for and something that just happens to us. And one thing I think happens to us all is the changing of seasons. And you talked about that in your reflection as well, that the changing of the seasons is actually a really good marker or a good transition point for some of your rhythms changing.

00:29:28:07 - 00:29:53:19
Kris
And yeah, I totally get that vibe. You know, some seasons really lend themselves well to particular styles of music or your food choice changes. You know, the winter soups come out and there's just something really synergetic is that which synergetic Oh oh I'm going to I'm pointing it now there's something synergetic about the seasons changing and also us moving with them.

00:29:53:22 - 00:30:16:06
Hannah
Yeah. And I think that they're like a great metaphor for like seasons of life that are like autumn, winter, spring, summer, you know, but like, stress, you know, seasons of stress or whatever they are. They're a great metaphor because there are things that we can do even in our not favorite seasons, to embrace them and enjoy them. So but say you didn't like winter, there are things that you can do.

00:30:16:06 - 00:30:36:10
Hannah
So like I always try and bring different greenery into my house depending on what season it is. I try to have different candles or smells events. So like food also helps with that. Obviously types of things. Like in the winter I really different this summer so I like have a really nice basket with all the things we need for making a fire.

00:30:36:12 - 00:30:49:08
Hannah
So again, rhythm, we have a heat pump, but I like building a fire because it's that slowing down. I enjoy doing that even though I'm colder bit longer while I make it, but it.

00:30:49:08 - 00:31:03:06
Kris
Almost feels like you're earning the pay off. I bet. You know, it's like you're putting the work in. It's like you're going out and hunting your own meal a bit. Yeah. There's something more delicious about a meal that you had to work for.

00:31:03:08 - 00:31:16:22
Hannah
Yeah. So maybe like a routine. Maybe a routine prioritizes convenience, but a rhythm prioritizes something else. I think a rhythm prioritizes like that enjoyment.

00:31:16:23 - 00:31:40:22
Kris
I like that. Yeah. Mundane things or even the phrasing around something being mundane is something we've created because it's repeated. But when did it become normal for repeated things to be mundane? Yeah, it's actually. It doesn't make sense. You can enjoy something that you do every day. In fact, lots of us do. I enjoy my breakfast. Every morning I.

00:31:41:03 - 00:31:45:07
Hannah
Watch a young child. They enjoy repeating almost everything.

00:31:45:07 - 00:31:50:11
Kris
Yeah, and they don't. They get joy out of it. They get you out of doing the same thing every day.

00:31:50:13 - 00:31:52:23
Hannah
Exactly. Exactly.

00:31:53:00 - 00:32:12:21
Kris
And of course, we live in New Zealand, if you haven't guessed already, by the accents. And so our summer might look different to other people's summer, even the time of year or the fact that Christmas occurs over summer for us, which is a big change because we kind of see the Hallmark movies, right, with snowy winter Christmas in America.

00:32:13:02 - 00:32:17:06
Hannah
Yes. And feel sad that we don't experience.

00:32:17:08 - 00:32:19:21
Kris
This could be its own podcast discussion.

00:32:19:21 - 00:32:22:06
Hannah
I think we should like file that away.

00:32:22:08 - 00:32:32:16
Kris
Out of the way. What are we going to debate the merits on whether Hallmark movies are a good rhythm to follow As I am tapping out of that one now.

00:32:32:16 - 00:32:36:20
Hannah
They have a clear formula who you could call that a rhythm.

00:32:36:21 - 00:33:01:15
Kris
I would call that a routine, actually. I think the rhythm is the hallmark Channel, enjoying all of the streaming revenue from those movies, all 5000 that come out. So we've talked about rhythms. We've kind of dissected a little bit about what a rhythm could look like in a really small sense. You know, something that happens day to day that we could view as a routine, but as something more than that.

00:33:01:15 - 00:33:07:21
Kris
But I guess what we really want to hone in on is how do we how do we get to where we where we want to be?

00:33:07:23 - 00:33:31:14
Hannah
Well, for me, I'm in a season of feeling really stretched. Yeah, probably stretched a bit too thin. And I don't feel bad saying that because I've been telling like my boss and my family so, like, I just have a new puppy. We're starting a podcast. My work has been really intense because I love in community. There's a lot of other people to look after and there's been a lot of sickness.

00:33:31:14 - 00:33:52:16
Hannah
I've just been stretched really, really thin. And what I know about myself as I actually am my best self, I do my best work when I'm doing really focused deep work. I love that. So I need to find what are some rhythms for what I'm feeling, you know, to help me and the overwhelm, because I do feel stressed and stretched.

00:33:52:18 - 00:34:21:21
Hannah
And so that does a little bit not completely boil over, but there are times in my day when I really feel it and so that's telling me, okay, I need to find something that's going to hold me and carry me through this. So like, for instance, my morning rhythms are great stuff, but maybe there's something in the middle of my work day, or maybe there's a rhythm around when I rush home and I'm cooking dinner, even just and all of those individual projects, what are rhythms that are going to help me?

00:34:21:21 - 00:34:30:23
Hannah
So for instance, working on this podcast, I've already made a little thing, which is that I've had a lot of fun sitting up the room where we're recording.

00:34:30:24 - 00:34:52:23
Kris
I feel like it's so rewarding to be able to sit here and chat about this because it's a culmination of us establishing a whole host of new rhythms to get to this point, which I think is super exciting, and it's just proving to me that actually this concept is something that. So it's like a universal, Yeah.

00:34:53:00 - 00:35:18:19
Hannah
I really like that. And I also really liked what you said about like it's a universal idea that obviously that all personalized to us and we were discussing this recently that sometimes we think that we need to make everything feel really universal. But actually it's the small, unique moments that often are most what people most gravitate towards and find like relevant and common to them.

00:35:18:21 - 00:35:47:21
Hannah
And that just really makes me think of another thing that we want from this podcast is to like be able to build community with people who are also going after the skull. And so like those just a little plug, but like we genuinely want to be able to have conversation with people about what are your weird, unique little rhythms that bring you joy and add this to your life because it will be the thing that you think is totally unique to you that other people are going to go, Oh my goodness, me too.

00:35:47:21 - 00:35:48:23
Hannah
I feel so sane.

00:35:48:24 - 00:36:09:09
Kris
Yeah, yeah. It's like a good comedian, right? When they come out on stage and they are just saying the things that everyone thinks, but in a way that's new or different. That's so true. And I'm just so curious to know with people asking, what am I doing with my life as much as I am? Because I feel like I'm asking myself that question a lot.

00:36:09:09 - 00:36:31:17
Kris
And I really want to hear from people whether I'm just like broken or whether this is something that that people are asking. And so, yeah, we really want to hear from you. We've we've set up a few ways that we can do that. Firstly, we've got our website, which is it's rhythms dot com, and now we realize that this is a difficult word to spell.

00:36:31:17 - 00:36:36:12
Kris
Rhythm's okay. So our website is, it's our way to stock.

00:36:36:14 - 00:36:40:06
Hannah
Pivot because yeah, we don't want anyone to feel like they're in a spelling bee when they're trying.

00:36:40:08 - 00:36:50:18
Kris
It's a tricky one, so it's for them. Com is where you can find us and we will post site content and things that are relevant to the shows.

00:36:50:20 - 00:37:22:20
Hannah
Yeah, that's right. And as well as the website, we know lots of you already be on Instagram, a great place to build community and so if you hop on to its rhythms podcast on Instagram you're going to find we'll post there when episodes come out and we'll put questions or ways that we're encouraging, you know, the conversation to get started with love, love, love you to comment, or of course you can always do emails, You can do more about a specific episode, or if you've got suggestions for episode topics, we would love to hear those.

00:37:23:01 - 00:37:27:09
Hannah
But yeah, please hear us say we want this to be a two way conversation so.

00:37:27:12 - 00:37:28:00
Kris
They.

00:37:28:02 - 00:37:29:19
Hannah
Find us. There's another way they can find it.

00:37:29:19 - 00:37:40:13
Kris
So speaking of questions, if you're on Spotify, there's a special feature where you can ask us questions and Hannah, I've just seen that you can actually leave voice memos as well.

00:37:40:15 - 00:37:41:14
Hannah
Oh.

00:37:41:16 - 00:38:07:21
Kris
It would be really cool to get a few of those and we might even feature them on the episode. But I'm super excited to chase this with the Hannah. I think that people will get a lot of value out of reexamining the rhythms in their lives, and we hope that least in this first episode, you've been able to think of a rhythm that you either want to establish or change, or to focus on, and we want to hear about that.

00:38:07:21 - 00:38:14:05
Kris
So let us know if there's a rhythm that's popped into your mind that you really want to focus on love.

00:38:14:05 - 00:38:26:01
Hannah
I can't wait to hear. And Chris, I just want to say I'm so excited that we're now going to have a rhythm to our long, crazy conversations because I always enjoy them. You're such a wonderful conversation, partner.

00:38:26:01 - 00:38:30:17
Kris
And ditto to you. Hannah Coetzee on the next one. Bye.

00:38:30:19 - 00:38:59:05
Hannah
Thanks for listening to the Rhythms podcast, the show notes, episode transcripts and more. Remember, it's r h y t h in WSJ.com, that's its rhythms dot com. And if you enjoyed today's episode, don't forget to subscribe, write and review on your favorite platform. It really helps us out. Plus, we want to hear from you. If there's a rhythm in your life you want us to talk about or a question you'd like to ask us about this episode or any others, please do get in touch.

00:38:59:07 - 00:39:13:14
Hannah
You can email us at the Rhythms Podcast at Emoticon. You can DM us on Instagram at it's Rhythms, podcasts, or if you're listening on Spotify, make sure you use the Q&A feature. See you next time on the Rhythms podcast.

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