Episode 5: Rhythms Saving Our Lives Right Now

 



Most of us easily moan to a friend or colleague about the things that are making our lives suck right now, but are you so adept at articulating the small or serious things that are SAVING your life in this season? Join Hannah and Kris as they unpack the RHYTHMS that are saving their lives right now, plus chat about listener feedback and responses they’ve received about the podcast so far.

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Episode transcript:

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Hannah

Welcome to the Rhythms Podcast. My name's Hannah.


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Kris

And my name's Kris. This is a podcast about exploring the rhythms, patterns and habits that bring joy and added richness to our everyday lives.


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Hannah

From daily habits to embracing the changing seasons. It's not about mindless routines, but patterns with purpose. It's about making something special out of something ordinary.


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Kris

If you're someone who wants to move beyond just being more efficient or productive and instead find ways to infuse your days with small, familiar moments that matter, then you've found two new friends with the same goal every episode.


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Hannah

Listen. And as we share a reflection on the role of rhythms in our lives. Join our conversation as we unpack this idea further and then spend a moment with us. Considering how that rhythm could shape or add richness to our lives today.


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Kris

Surprise. You thought you were going to get a beautifully curated audio reflection with sound effects and music, but it's just us. Yeah, here we are.


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Hannah

We're breaking up our regular rhythm and bringing you something new.


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Kris

Today because why not? Rhythm sometimes need a bit of breaking, I think.


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Hannah

Yeah. Then you can find something new that you love. I think personally, without having recorded this yet, I think that this is going to be one of my favorite sort of episodes.


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Kris

That we do. I know it's going to be one of our favorite episodes and we haven't even recorded it yet, which.


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Hannah

Is way that was super, but today, feeling confident.


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Kris

The words come from the yes, we've got a different format today. So what are we talking about?


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Hannah

Yeah, because I feel like I think I'll like this because as there's other podcast that I listen to that have done similar sort of episodes. So that's kind of where the idea for the episode has come from today. So we're talking about the rhythms that are saving our lives right now. Like I mentioned, there's some other podcasts I listen to who talk about the things that are saving their lives right now.


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Hannah

And this idea was popularized by an author who names Brett Brown Taylor, and she was actually asked this question in an interview to tell the audience about what was saving her life right now. And she loved it. She talks about this in her book. And I think most of us we know what are the things that like making our life suck right now or that are like, you know, killing us right now and we can articulate that really well.


00:02:24:21 - 00:02:41:00

Hannah

So I think I agree with the author that it's also helpful to think about what are the things that are saving us right now and the things that are giving us life at the moment. So we want to allow take on it, which is what are the rhythms that are saving our lives right now?


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Kris

There's the twist, Yeah. Because there's so many little things that we do during the day and in our lives that we might be like, Oh, thank goodness. They're totally like the morning coffee. Like, Oh, this coffee is saving my life because otherwise I wouldn't be able to get through the day. Yeah.


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Hannah

And so they can be like really silly little things or can be more serious things. They'll be different in different seasons.


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Kris

Speaking of coffee, Hannah, we just wanted to talk about really briefly before we go into the we're going to do for each the rhythms that are saving our lives. But before we do, we just wanted to talk about some of the responses that have come through. And funny enough, and a lot of them were about hot drinks.


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Hannah

I know. So good. So good. I also thanks everyone who has responded either on Spotify or some of you have also responded on Instagram. It's been so fun to hear. What are the rhythms that you are connecting with?


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Kris

Yeah, and we've also gotten some lovely messages of encouragement and support, so we want to thank everyone who's taking the time to encourage us on this podcast. Yeah, we're learning and it's been really, really helpful for us to get that feedback.


00:03:43:21 - 00:04:05:23

Hannah

Yes. So obviously the Rhythms Podcast community is also our hot drink lovers community. So and I think that that makes sense, like a rhythm we talk about as like something that helps you achieve a task or a series of tasks, but that helps you feel like familiar loveliness during it. So I think like a hot drink in the morning or whatever it is that feels like the epitome of familial loveliness.


00:04:05:23 - 00:04:30:12

Kris

Yeah, because I know that with coffee it's like I'm not a coffee snob. I can appreciate those who appreciate the artistry behind making coffee and learning about the brew and the process. But for me, it's less about the caffeine delivery or the mechanics of the coffee and more about the experience of a hot drink. And that I think is familiar loveliness as the ritual and the rhythm of going to get the drink.


00:04:30:18 - 00:04:45:01

Kris

And it looks like a couple of people feel the same way. So Nevin Patel says, every day I'll make a coffee and drink it at a very specific part of the motorway during my drive into work haha. Similar to Hannah, I love the smell of beans in the process.


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Hannah

Thanks Nev. I think this was like such good. Like self-control that he doesn't drinker until this.


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Kris

I know. I want to know like what is it about that specific part of the motorway that makes the coffee so appealing? Then? Do you know.


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Hannah

What I can imagine? I don't know if this is true, but if I was in this situation, I think I would save my coffee for when I hit traffic. You know, it's kind of like getting ready to go, but like, make it enjoyable so that but that could be awful. Save something lovely for a.


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Kris

Traffic jam, Coffee. Same with Angela. Angela McDonald Coffee is something to look forward to even before I go to sleep. I'm thinking about it. I love to get up when it's dark and quiet, turn the fire on and sit down and enjoy the pace before the kids get up.


00:05:30:06 - 00:05:46:17

Hannah

Yeah, I'm the same. I like. Can't wait for my coffee. And sometimes at night I'm like sitting at my mug and stuff and I think go to sleep quickly so you can get up and enjoy it. Also, maybe coffee is not your thing. We've got our use of all badges, which I'm pretty sure is. A family friend of mine from us.


00:05:46:17 - 00:06:07:20

Hannah

Vivienne I think this is. Yeah, she says My first cup of tea in the morning is a rhythm that she does every day. Two cups, one for me, one for my husband, back to bed and a chat about what's on for the day. We're retired so there's no regular routine and our day. And so I love this. She obviously does crave that familiarity and the season now when every day can be a blank canvas.


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Kris

Yeah, it's like the the drink, the act of the drink is like the first step and a greater thing. So like, for Ange, it's like the peace and quiet before, before getting into the kids or for anyone, it's for the, the drive, you know, it's like in service of something else.


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Hannah

Yeah. It's bringing the lovely and the enjoyment into where you're going.


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Kris

So yeah, that familiar loveliness is something that we're starting to see creep into all sorts of rhythms in our lives, isn't it? And that's where we're going to land. Now we want to talk about the rhythms that are saving our lives.


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Hannah

Yes, I can't wait to hear what else I cross because we talked like very briefly about this before and I had to go. But I. I don't know where you landed.


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Kris

Well, yeah, we haven't coordinated on this. I think it might be a bit more of a surprise then maybe.


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Hannah

Yeah. So come on, hit us.


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Kris

Okay. All right. Number one for me, a rhythm that is saving my life currently is having a project.


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Hannah

Hmm. Yeah, I think I know what you're talking about.


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Kris

Yeah. Wow. Do you? Because I think the one you're thinking of, which is my first point, is that we are renovating.


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Hannah

Mm.


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Kris

And I wouldn't say it's adding years to my life. In fact, it's incredibly frustrating. But the wider loveliness around it is having a project to work on and something to look forward to. And like these, all these different steps that we have to follow. And we're slowly emphasis on slowly getting through those. So having a project, this is my first one, and particularly renovating, it's a really helpful rhythm in my life currently because it's giving us something to look forward to because we can't yet see the finished room.


00:07:49:05 - 00:08:12:20

Kris

What we're doing is converting our garage into another room and it's got a bedroom and a little mud room and workshop attached to it, but we can actually see the finished product yet. We kind of have to trust that if we follow each step that we're eventually going to get there. And I think I'm learning a lot from that, particularly patience and the rhythm of being patient for something.


00:08:12:22 - 00:08:39:00

Kris

It's like I've probably a whole other episode, so there's renovating, but also I have on the side been building a business and part of that business is doing web design for different clients. And so being able to slowly build that business has been a new rhythm in my life and I've had to learn skills around that to and tapping into some of the rhythms they talked about in episode two, where we talked about being curious and learning.


00:08:39:00 - 00:09:11:22

Kris

I have had to reach into a new toolbox of skills and develop those more. In building business, you kind of have to really back yourself. And I think part of the rhythm of doing that is learning and accepting and embracing what I'm good at. And so backing myself in doing that, I've learned a lot of new rhythms and getting a lot of joy and familiar loveliness out of some of the things that I maybe haven't done for a while professionally, because I used to do that kind of stuff in my previous role, but not anymore.


00:09:11:22 - 00:09:21:15

Kris

So actually rediscovering some of those rhythms of creating content and media and visuals and things like that has been really exciting. And part of that is in this podcast.


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Hannah

That's the one I thought you were going to say.


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Kris

So you just, Oh, that's okay. So did I surprised you on the first one?


00:09:27:04 - 00:09:33:01

Hannah

You did a little bit. And then especially I did sort of know about the web design, but like I guess I wouldn't know how big of a project it is.


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Kris

Yeah, well, I mean, it would be great if I was bigger, but.


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Hannah

One day you.


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Kris

Got to start somewhere.


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Hannah

You said you're learning about patients. Yeah.


00:09:39:22 - 00:10:11:09

Kris

And having so having the podcast has been a really, really great project because it's introduced a new rhythm in my life. And I think what I like about rhythm sometimes is that they can be unpredictable. And I was reflecting on this. I think I gravitate towards music that is unpredictable or isn't the same or changes or evolves, and I think that's like a good synonym for my life that I don't want to see rhythms as prescriptive, but rather like ebbs and flows in the music and the score of my life.


00:10:11:11 - 00:10:31:04

Kris

And so doing the podcast has been one of those little ebbs and flows where I've suddenly and very quickly introduced something new and interesting and fresh, and it's added new richness and new, you know, it's tapped into different skill sets that I haven't used for a while. So that's my first one as having a project. And those three, particularly the other ones I could think of.


00:10:31:04 - 00:10:33:07

Kris

So yeah, that's my first one. What's your face on henna?


00:10:33:08 - 00:10:58:14

Hannah

Okay, so my first one is actually kind of like an addition that I've made to a daily rhythm. I already have. So I've talked before on this podcast about how much I love my morning rhythm. So that involves some art and music and especially my coffee, as we've discussed at length and how it's not just this routine that I've infused my getting ready for work with familiar loveliness.


00:10:58:20 - 00:11:17:13

Hannah

So recently I've added into that a morning walk. The catalyst for that was that my puppy is now able to walk on the streets. His head also is good to go. And so I wanted to be taking him for a daily walk. And so, yeah, so this is the last thing I do now and my rhythm before I head off to work.


00:11:17:13 - 00:11:41:24

Hannah

I do the same little walk to the end of our rural road and back every day. It's only about 15 or 20 minutes or a little bit quicker now because hoga, my dog's not so distracted and the sun at the time of year that we are right now, the sun's just coming up when I hit out. So if you've been following us on Instagram, I've shared a couple little pictures on the air, so it's really beautiful.


00:11:41:24 - 00:12:06:20

Hannah

I love that I get all wrapped up in my vest and sometimes a scarf or a hat. So this is a new sort of addition into my morning rhythm is having this walk and the reasons that at saving my life. Let me just go back in the last episode when we talked about dollars and cents, I talked about how I've been struggling to make space craft a rhythm for training.


00:12:06:20 - 00:12:25:12

Hannah

My dog and I talked about how I've been hanging on to this like online subscription for these videos, even though I haven't been using them. So I've been running really, really hard to focus on that. So this morning, Walk is saving my life because I do some training and obedience stuff with Hugo when we're out on the walk.


00:12:25:12 - 00:12:43:20

Hannah

So I feel reassured every day that at least I'm doing something. He's doing certain he's doing okay, like when we keep going down, both still working on down. He doesn't like to lie down on the wet grass, so we're still working on that. But yeah, so that's sort of giving me peace of mind that at least I'm doing that every day.


00:12:43:21 - 00:13:04:05

Hannah

Yeah, nothing else I'm doing that. And then the other reason it's saving my life is I enjoyed my back few years ago when we moved. And so if you have a back injury, you can just be the most silly little thing that you do to take care and you can have a few days or weeks of pain. And I've been in a few weeks of having a really, really sore back at the moment.


00:13:04:05 - 00:13:23:19

Hannah

So this walk is saving my life every day because it gets me up and moving. You know, I take my pain relief and I get moving and stretch my back out every morning on this walk and that is saving my life as well. And it's just I've already decided it's part of the rhythm. I don't need to try and convince myself to go on this work because it's just what I do and it's beautiful.


00:13:23:19 - 00:13:46:06

Hannah

And I was thinking about it this morning as I came that as I wasn't listening to a podcast because my AirPods were flat and I thought it was the into my walks. I was a little less deaf and I was like, Oh, this is lovely. Maybe I should not listen to something when I go on this walk. You know, maybe this can be part of that, like slowly, thoughtfully walking into the day rather than being distracted by something.


00:13:46:06 - 00:14:01:06

Hannah

I'm listening to that What I've realized as I actually need to listen to something on that walk right now, because I'm actually in so much pain when I start out on this walk. I need the distraction of something that is an important part of the rhythm. So yeah, it's really saved my life.


00:14:01:06 - 00:14:08:22

Kris

Sounds like I've done that walk. Actually, we're staying with you guys, and I took Rooney out, and I promise we're not a dog podcast, by the way.


00:14:08:24 - 00:14:09:18

Hannah

I know, because.


00:14:09:18 - 00:14:31:15

Kris

I'm just seeing a lot of our content come out is dog related, and I think maybe we need to do a dog episode at some point. Oh, it sounds like it's very topical. Sorry, Cat people, but yeah, I've done that. Walk in is very peaceful, the setting is beautiful and I can see why doing that every day would at a familiar loveliness to your day.


00:14:31:17 - 00:15:04:07

Kris

We we've like we've mentioned previously as well we do the early morning walk and I guess we're not at that I'm not at that point where I get up in the morning and I'm like, Still, yeah, but I'm working. I'm working into it. You know, I'm starting to see that It's actually really quite nice to just have that time to focus and to set myself up for the day, try and prioritize what I want to achieve and how I'm feeling that day, because it's always it's a good space to kind of assess that.


00:15:04:07 - 00:15:21:24

Kris

Yeah, sometimes I'll do the same where I won't listen to anything. It's not a long walk, but just having the ambiance of the neighborhood is enough to bring me closer and to my mind and to figure out what I'm feeling and how I'm feeling that day and how can I respond to that. So maybe this year, maybe it's a flat day.


00:15:21:24 - 00:15:30:00

Kris

We're like dynamic energy or feeling down about something or like, I feel really motivated. It's just a really good time to assist that.


00:15:30:02 - 00:15:49:14

Hannah

And because I think that that is like the beauty of a rhythm as they can slow us down and help us be more observant. So I know when I'm out on my walk and I'm listening to a podcast or music or whatever, I'm not noticing so much what I'm smelling. Yeah, and I'm not noticing so much the temperature of the air on my skin and I'm not noticing the beautiful birdsong.


00:15:49:14 - 00:16:13:08

Hannah

So that's why I'm like, Oh, I don't know if I want to listen, but at this season, this rhythm an important part of the rhythm is listening to something because I couldn't do the walk if I wasn't distracted, you know? Yeah, but yeah, I think what you're describing, I love that idea that before you head off to work, you have a and of course you can go for a walk, but probably when you're walking your dog, you're not hurrying through the walk so much.


00:16:13:08 - 00:16:24:04

Hannah

So you get that like slower, familiar, lovely walking into the day. Rather then I slip down and I'm rushing around the house and it's crazy and I'm screaming at my partner to get out of the house.


00:16:24:07 - 00:16:39:03

Kris

Yeah, it's it's purposeful and it has meaning to it rather than just achieving the task. And like I said, I'm not quite there yet where it's at that point of like this beautiful experience. But like, life never is that is it? Life is messy and.


00:16:39:06 - 00:16:39:15

Hannah

Yes.


00:16:39:15 - 00:17:08:05

Kris

Distracting and annoying. And sometimes I wish that Renee didn't need as much exercise, but that's life, you know? And it's good. That's something that gets you like physically moving and which is, I think, a good segway into my second one, which is a rhythm that is saving my life, is losing weight. So it's been on my to do list to lose some weight for ten plus is it just creeps up on you.


00:17:08:05 - 00:17:34:05

Kris

And there's a reason the weight loss industry is billions and billions of dollars a year. Multibillion is because people are looking for that change. And the equation is quite simple Eat less, exercise more and you'll lose weight. But the execution is so difficult and an exercise is physically and mentally. So many elements of your life and your day to day.


00:17:34:05 - 00:17:56:20

Kris

It changes everything. And like we structure our days around food. If you live in a city, it's really difficult to actually physically move around using a body like you might drive places or go catch the bus and maybe walk the distance to your bus stop and to wherever you're going and coming from. But the way we've structured our lives really makes it difficult to actually bust out of that rhythm.


00:17:56:20 - 00:18:28:03

Kris

So, yeah, losing weight has been something that's really challenged me and my rhythms. Food is is the hard one, particularly culturally. I'm an Indian and food is so culturally important and not just Indians, but Asians and Pacific Island culture. Food is so much a part of daily life, and learning new habits to do with food was really difficult because it's amazing how much of that you drink in as you grow up and you don't realize.


00:18:28:03 - 00:18:56:01

Kris

But knowing when you're full a a rhythm that you teach yourself, you know for sure. And so losing weight has been a really, really difficult but rewarding rhythm that's been saving my life, like literally as making me healthier. It's hopefully reducing some of the potential health problems that I might have later in life, but it's also making me feel physically better and more confident about myself and my appearance, which has never been important to me.


00:18:56:01 - 00:19:27:22

Kris

But that's good for your self-esteem when your self-image is strong and robust and healthy, whatever that looks like in your mind, as long as it aligns with what you believe about yourself, your physical body. So, so losing weight, learning about food. And again, we talked a little bit about an episode for dollars and cents, but learning how to make short term decisions that translate into long term outcomes and losing weight is such a great example of a rhythm of small choices and decisions having long term outcomes.


00:19:27:22 - 00:19:44:22

Kris

Because I can eat a cookie now and enjoy it now. But the long term outcome is if I have a cookie or six a day for a year, I'm probably going to gain weight. But if I choose to have one cookie a week or two cookies a week for a year, that long term outcome is going to be different.


00:19:44:22 - 00:20:10:16

Kris

And so I've gone through this process of learning different food rhythms and the goal is always long term. And I just want to give a quick shout out to coach Kieran at Good Guys Fit. I want to check him out on Instagram. He did my meal plan for me, which I started in October of last year, and we're recording this into June now and it's been a long term slog, you know, really like at points has felt like a slog.


00:20:10:16 - 00:20:35:10

Kris

But over that time, I've come to appreciate the new rhythm of making small decisions around my food, backed up with new skills and now I'm really benefiting from the outcomes I'm seeing. You know, I've lost about 19 kilos now. My goal is 20 and I'm seeing the outcome now. So I want to tell you that small decisions over a long period of time, I would say more often than not, will lead you to your goal.


00:20:35:12 - 00:20:47:11

Hannah

Well, and you said, like you talked about how it's been a slog at times, but I've also heard you talk about how now, like breakfast has become like quite important for you. So obviously there's also moments of like enjoying then.


00:20:47:16 - 00:21:09:12

Kris

Yeah. And I don't want to diminish the achievement because I think we're really good, especially like Kiwi culture of just like knocking down our own achievements. But it has felt like a slog but also has been really like a positive slog, like it's like climbing a mountain, like it must hurt, like here climbing a mountain. But when you get to the top, the pain makes it worth it.


00:21:09:12 - 00:21:25:21

Kris

And I think that's kind of a similar some of the sort of vein I'm thinking here is that like it's been really like a hard process, but a really rewarding process too. Okay, so that was my second one, Losing Weight. My first was having a project. So what is your second rhythm that's saving a life?


00:21:25:22 - 00:21:52:10

Hannah

Okay, so my next one is that I have being more intentional about my listening rhythms. So I've sort of already talked a little bit about this, about how I'm listening to something when I go for a walk in the morning. But I've been establishing some patterns about when I listen to different types of media. So when I'm driving to work in the morning, so it's about a 20 minute drive I listen to sort of like inspirational type podcasts or.


00:21:52:13 - 00:21:54:09

Kris

Like motivational or like kind.


00:21:54:09 - 00:22:23:03

Hannah

Of motivational. Yeah, sort of like probably in a similar genre. Hopefully to this podcast, right? So that's the sort of podcast that gives me some fun ideas around my life or my work, or that helps me to be quite reflective. So I find that really helpful because it helps me get in like a motivated headspace. I usually am like brimming with ideas of things I want to try just in my life or for work by the time I get to my workplace.


00:22:23:03 - 00:22:34:15

Hannah

But I haven't gotten bogged down in the details of my actual work, so I'm getting into a really helpful frame of mind to start work. But I'm not thinking about work yet.


00:22:34:17 - 00:22:37:24

Kris

You're sort of preparing yourself for that part of your day.


00:22:37:24 - 00:22:59:09

Hannah

Totally. And I just want to like shout out to one podcast in particular, which is like a fave of mine. It's the Lazy Genius podcast with Kendra that she and she's so fun to listen to. At times. It's super duper practical. But yeah, I just find that really inspiring and motivating and I want to try something new in my life or Yeah, and tension or purpose.


00:22:59:09 - 00:23:19:03

Hannah

So she actually herself talks about routines and rhythms. So that's what I listen to in the morning and I really enjoy as and as a particularly awesome day when there's a new Lacie genius podcast episode. So that's some mornings. And then in the afternoon this could be when I'm on a lunch break or driving somewhere for work in the afternoon or driving home.


00:23:19:03 - 00:23:41:07

Hannah

I listen to the radio, so I like to listen to talkback radio only in the afternoon. In the morning, the person who is on in the morning when I drive to work drives me nuts so I can't listen on my way to work. But an afternoon. I love the hosts and I love the format on this particular station, so this is really helpful because it helps me catch up on the news sometimes.


00:23:41:07 - 00:24:01:06

Hannah

Is something that's happened that day that I haven't actually become aware of yet. So that's helpful. But also this is why it's helping to save my life. Just like the podcast in the morning helps me get ready for work without actually starting my work yet. Listening to the radio helps me leave work behind. So it's really enjoyable. And I'm thinking about something that's unrelated to the work that I've just left.


00:24:01:08 - 00:24:21:09

Hannah

I can find it really easy to just think about work all the time. So this is a really, really helpful practice for me to just think about something completely different. Also, on my way home from work or in the afternoons during that lunchtime, traffic can be quite bad. And when I listen to talk Back, that's often when I want to keep listening, even when I've arrived at my destination.


00:24:21:09 - 00:24:48:14

Hannah

So this is a really helpful thing to listen to when I am stuck in traffic because generally I want to keep listening. So yeah. So it helps me enjoy the commute time even if I'm stuck in bad traffic. Which bad traffic and cop C is like still not bad. You know, it's all relative. And then the last one is that when I'm going to go on a long walk, which hasn't been something I've been doing so often recently with it being winter now.


00:24:48:16 - 00:25:05:05

Hannah

But when I do want to go on a long walk, I listen to her a true crime podcast or an audiobook. And so those are obviously like longform pieces of media. So an audio book could be anywhere between like four and 12 hours and some even longer.


00:25:05:07 - 00:25:12:04

Kris

Yeah, well, I've been listening to the Game of Thrones audiobook. I just finished the first one and that one's 36 hours.


00:25:12:06 - 00:25:14:14

Hannah

Oh my goodness. Okay. Wow. That's a lot of.


00:25:14:19 - 00:25:17:03

Kris

Like, not even the longest one. Wow.


00:25:17:05 - 00:25:38:02

Hannah

Okay. I have not had anything anywhere near that length yet, so I love listening to audiobooks and that's really different from, you know, anything else that I'm listening to during the day. I and the classic True crime podcast like addicts, like and police. If you've got suggestions for me, send them my way. I'm like looking for another good one to start on.


00:25:38:02 - 00:25:46:19

Kris

And if True Crime podcasts are listening to our podcast and Hannah is your ideal audience Avatar demographic study. So listen closely.


00:25:46:21 - 00:26:05:16

Hannah

Totally, Totally. So yeah, because those are like really long, often with a true crime podcast, if you've just stumbled across that, maybe it's already several episodes to listen to. So those are for a long walk because I'm like, Oh, maybe I want to walk further than I'd planned because I want to keep listening to the next chapter or whatever it is.


00:26:05:16 - 00:26:25:17

Kris

Nice. Okay, so that's your number two. So shall I do my number three? My final one. Okay, this one's a bit more abstract, so I'm hoping you'll be able to draw out some of the ideas from it. But this phrase kept coming into my head when I was like, What is saving my life right now? And the phrases taking stock.


00:26:25:23 - 00:26:55:19

Kris

So in a previous episode we talked about doing a spending audit, but this one in particular is about like doing taking stock of what's important in my life in this season, and there's hundreds of rhythms attached to what that might look like. But the podcast is what I've already talked about. I think out of a lot of the things that I'm doing currently, when I when I took stock of what was important to me at this moment, it was really important that I did something creative, something that exercised and stretched my skills.


00:26:55:19 - 00:27:17:19

Kris

So I have a background in audio engineering, so I was able to use that again. And the actual act of producing reflections and talking to you about different topics is actually a rhythm that I'm enjoying and a rhythm that saving my life too, because it's pulling out things in my life that are important to me, things that are like bookmarks and where I'm at.


00:27:17:19 - 00:27:39:16

Kris

And I think that's been so important for me. So taking stock of that and going, actually, no, this podcast is something that's worth putting my time into because it's important. I guess what's important about taking stock is that it helps you to not just coast through your life. And I felt like before I started doing this with you, that life was just passing me by and I wasn't having any sort of meaningful input into it.


00:27:39:16 - 00:28:05:09

Kris

It was just life was just happening to me rather than me being an active participant in it. And so taking stock and going actually what are the things that are important to me and what is and what's not adding value, what's not creating, I guess, what we calling familial loveliness now taking stock of that and removing those elements and a significant one for me was my previous job, which was something I was really passionate about.


00:28:05:09 - 00:28:31:05

Kris

But I had to give myself permission to actually take stock and go, Is this adding good goodness for lack of a better term, as as adding richness and value to my life? And my decision was, no, it wasn't. And so giving myself permission to move out of that role was actually really significant and wouldn't have happened if I didn't take stock, if I didn't actively sit down and listen to myself and what I was feeling and thinking.


00:28:31:09 - 00:29:00:20

Kris

Because taking stock helps you prune away the bad environments and the bad mindsets, you know, like it could be a relationship or a job or a habit or a spending pattern, whatever it is, taking stock is just such a great practical way of redefining your rhythm. So that was my number three, taking stock. And so to close out the episode, Hanna drummers on my desk, what is your number three?


00:29:00:20 - 00:29:21:06

Hannah

So the last one I have as a pretty recent rhythm that I've developed, and that's around dinner planning and online grocery shopping. So I've gotten really practical with my three rhythms that are saving my life. And yet this one is come from a very practical place, but it's helping me enjoy my life like it's so much fun and richness into my life.


00:29:21:11 - 00:29:49:16

Hannah

So I think I've mentioned before that I love and community. So what that means is where I live on this rural property, there's four households and we all live very closely together and part of what we do is we eat together four nights a week, sometimes more, but differently. Monday through Thursday. We all eat together. And in this season I am cooking three of those nights a week and it's 412 people that I cook for.


00:29:49:18 - 00:30:11:07

Hannah

So I do actually really enjoy it. Since I've been living in this way, I've found that I love to cook and it's actually been a fun challenge to learn to cook for that many people. But what I find really hard is deciding what to cook. And I get here so many of you who are in charge of the cooking in your house, I mean, yeah, it is so difficult.


00:30:11:07 - 00:30:29:19

Hannah

So what I found recently was that I was going to the grocery store multiple times a week because I would decide so last minute what to cook like sometimes I was in the car park, walking into the store, figuring out what am I going to cook for 12 people. And we've got like a pretty tight budget, right? Because it's so many of us.


00:30:29:19 - 00:30:36:00

Hannah

So that's not the ideal way to plan. What you're going to cook is like rolling into the store, being like, What do I feel like.


00:30:36:00 - 00:30:38:24

Kris

Yeah, what's on special? What can we afford for 12 people?


00:30:39:01 - 00:31:02:23

Hannah

Yes, which I'm not very good at. I probably need to go back to your point since episode reflect, Chris, because I'm not good at thinking like that. I just recently increased from cooking two nights a week to three nights a week because one of my sisters had a baby, so she would normally have cooked one. So I needed a new rhythm to carry me through because I was not going to be going to the store almost every day of the week to get ingredients to cook.


00:31:03:01 - 00:31:08:10

Hannah

So now I plan the dinners that I'm going to cook a whole month ahead.


00:31:08:14 - 00:31:09:06

Kris

A month.


00:31:09:09 - 00:31:14:04

Hannah

A whole month, which is only 12 dinners, three nights a week, four weeks.


00:31:14:06 - 00:31:15:24

Kris

Got to have a goal. Break it down.


00:31:16:01 - 00:31:43:07

Hannah

12 them. Exactly. And so I sit down and I sit somewhere lovely in my living room, generally on my laptop, and I have a really nice, like pretty Canva document that I like drop it into. It looks lovely. I normally set when this a lot of other people around, so I'm like crowdsourcing ideas. If I get stuck and another part of this rhythm is on Tuesdays.


00:31:43:07 - 00:32:02:02

Hannah

My other sister, she, I think most of the year has been cooking burgers so we're like always have big as on Tuesdays and we actually love it. Like we haven't got sick of it yet. We do cycle through probably like for favorite burgers and then often like added another one. So there's probably like seven or eight burgers on the rotation.


00:32:02:02 - 00:32:14:08

Hannah

So we've been loving that. So I thought, okay, well if I'm cooking now than that week, I think I should have a themed Wednesday and I recently bought an instant pot. Do you know what instant pot is, Chris.


00:32:14:10 - 00:32:16:14

Kris

I think so, but why don't you explain it?


00:32:16:14 - 00:32:41:21

Hannah

So it's like a multi-cooker. But what's actually really helpful about it is that it's primarily a pressure cooker. So I love like slow cooked meats and things like that. So I was before if I wanted to have beef burger burritos, I was getting up like 5 a.m. to get that baby and the slow cooker. So it would be ready for me to like rush out of the slow cooker at 430 and quickly screw it up and get back in.


00:32:41:21 - 00:32:50:06

Hannah

And yeah, that was not the life I wanted to be living. So now I roll home at like three, three or four pop that made in and it's done in an hour.


00:32:50:06 - 00:32:53:14

Kris

Would you say your pressure cooker is saving your life?


00:32:53:17 - 00:33:16:23

Hannah

I got, yes, the pressure cooker that I do in my life that I can do other things as well. So the famed the famed wins they have is Rice Bowl Wednesday. So there's always something with rice on a Wednesday and that's because the instant pot cooks the rice so, so beautifully. My brother in law has been saying for years that we should be using a rice cooker.


00:33:17:00 - 00:33:34:23

Hannah

And I ignored him. But the instant pot cooks awesome rice. And so I know when I'm filling in this meal plan this dinner plan for the month every Wednesday, I'm just going to have a different something with Rice. I was trying to do like a soup and bread Thursday, but then I realized I don't like that many soups.


00:33:35:00 - 00:33:36:15

Hannah

So that's. What about the window now.


00:33:36:15 - 00:33:41:11

Kris

And soup and bread Thursday doesn't really roll off the tongue because it needs more alliteration.


00:33:41:13 - 00:34:08:10

Hannah

But yeah, I do that. And then the decisions made for a whole month, I don't have to think again about what I'm cooking for dinner. But then the next part of the rhythm is I have the same online grocery pickup time every week, so I don't have to think, what am I going to schedule it for? I know it's going to be at 9 a.m. on the day that I work from home, so I know every week, okay, it's by 9:00 the night before that, the order has to be all finished, like no more changes made.


00:34:08:10 - 00:34:30:18

Hannah

And so again, I like tend to sit down maybe like four nights before and it has to be done and stop. I have my meal plan. I sit there and go, What? All the ingredients? Who do I know? That's a weigh ins that would affect how much I need to cook or not good. And I usually while having a Coke and raspberry, maybe with some telly on in the background and do my online grocery order.


00:34:30:20 - 00:34:46:18

Hannah

So two lovely little rhythms in the air to say the bigger purpose of feeding the community I live in and I'm loving it. I to say, when I go and pick up my groceries, I just feel like a real adult and I love that I don't need to go to the store and it's saving life.


00:34:46:18 - 00:34:58:03

Kris

It sounds like it. It sounds like having that option of being able to even check it off on the online user interface. It's like organizes your thoughts, right? So you're not suddenly jotting it down on a piece of paper. We need some minutes.


00:34:58:03 - 00:35:12:03

Hannah

Exactly. And then the other thing is that the family love that they can look on the wall and see what we're going to be having. And I know I had someone in the family say like, oh, could we just switch those notes around because I'm not going to be here that night. And then he ended up changing what not he was going to.


00:35:12:08 - 00:35:29:06

Hannah

It was like, I definitely want to be home for that meal. But yeah, so it's just like it's like such a practical thing, but actually bringing like a lot of fun into our lives, something so boring. But yeah, so I think that that's what a rhythm does is like it helps you get stuff done, it helps you get what you need to go and enjoy getting there.


00:35:29:10 - 00:35:41:04

Kris

Yeah, and it takes something that's ordinary and simple, like cooking a meal and it makes and just makes it into something fun and special and meaningful and familiar and lovely.


00:35:41:06 - 00:35:49:11

Hannah

So yeah, those I think that is like a whole bunch of different types of things. But I can say that they genuinely are saving our lives in like little and big ways.


00:35:49:11 - 00:35:58:18

Kris

So the three rhythms that we've talked about saving our lives, but we really want to hear some rhythms that are saving your life and we've got a fun way to do that.


00:35:58:19 - 00:36:17:14

Hannah

Yeah, because the truth is that it's our ordinary, everyday moments that are making up our lives. So we want them to be beautiful, familiar and lovely. So we want to know what are the rhythms, What is one rhythm that is saving your life right now? It can be silly, it can be serious, it can be take, it can be small.


00:36:17:15 - 00:36:24:12

Hannah

That's not the point. The point is that we're aware of the things, the rhythms that are bringing us laugh so we can intentionally chose them going forward.


00:36:24:15 - 00:36:38:00

Kris

Yes. So we'll pop that question up on our Spotify poll where you can submit that what is a rhythm that is saving your life? And like Hennessy, it doesn't have to be big, it doesn't have to be small. It just has to mean something for you.


00:36:38:02 - 00:36:43:20

Hannah

And also we might like pop out in the question box on Instagram, so make sure you're following us there as well.


00:36:43:20 - 00:36:46:00

Kris

And are you going to be fun if we read some of those?


00:36:46:02 - 00:36:47:06

Hannah

Yeah, we should at some.


00:36:47:06 - 00:36:57:01

Kris

Point, Yeah. All right, cool. So those are three rhythms that are saving our life. How do you feel? And like, do you feel like you're ready now to tackle episode six? Get back in the rhythm?


00:36:57:01 - 00:37:02:11

Hannah

I think so. Actually, I have already, but I'm ready to dive back end.


00:37:02:11 - 00:37:06:07

Kris

So I can't wait to sound a fix on it.


00:37:06:09 - 00:37:11:04

Hannah

Yeah, it'd be nice to be back. And I do love the reflections, so I'm looking forward to it. Yeah.


00:37:11:04 - 00:37:18:12

Kris

And if you're looking for a familiar love for me, this tune in in two weeks time for the next episode of the Rhythms Podcast. It's familiar and it's lovely.


00:37:18:14 - 00:37:23:11

Hannah

Can't wait to see you there. I see a.


00:37:23:13 - 00:37:52:06

Kris

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00:37:52:08 - 00:38:06:06

Kris

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